Larz Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Oh yeah, while I'm thinking about it, I have an OEM header cut and ready for a Scorpion Serket- it's got a little more than 15mm behind the sensor port. If anyone's interested let me know, not looking to make any $ off of it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted August 17, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Larz said: Yeah, will definitely get Ivan to reflash for the graves with some light air box mods. Gonna have to wait, he's on vacation till the 2nd. Such is life. I'm sure the bike won't melt down running his stock tune with the Graves for a bit. It's running like 20 degrees cooler- sitting in traffic at 108' ambient temps, engine temp hasn't gone over 203. Before the flash would hit 220-223 under same conditions Very interested in hearing how it runs after the exhaust and flash, I have heard that the Graves system with a quality fuel map makes a VERY noticeable difference. I believe @norcal616 has a Graves full exhaust? ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcal616 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, betoney said: Very interested in hearing how it runs after the exhaust and flash, I have heard that the Graves system with a quality fuel map makes a VERY noticeable difference. I believe @norcal616 has a Graves full exhaust? Yes Graves Exhaust using Woolich is route I went... It's been almost 4yrs since 2WDW created my tune as it was the 1st time they had a request for using Woolich vs FTECU... Nothing wrong with FTECU but at the time the Woolich race kit was hard to beat in value... No separate tune needed for running with/wo baffle... I also have AIS block off plates... Bikes will have lower running temps in general when the big ole heater box(cat convert) is removed... 1 1 2012 wr250f - C-class 30+ age group 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition-80whp 2015 fj-09- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich tune by 2WDW @120whp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, norcal616 said: Yes Graves Exhaust using Woolich is route I went... I also have AIS block off plates... Bikes will have lower running temps in general when the big ole heater box(cat convert) is removed... Thought hard about the Woolich tune, decided on Ivan partly because you don't need the block-off plates with his tune. All the tunes from the major players look good; if someone has the funds, I don't know why they wouldn't get their ECU re-flashed, night and day how they run afterwards. Yep, figure losing the CAT will help on the heat front- hoping she runs even cooler after I get the Graves mounted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted August 17, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Larz said: ...decided on Ivan partly because you don't need the block-off plates with his tune... Just for clarity, none of the tuners require AIS block-off plates. They can all toggle the same bits in the ECU. The plates are just a more reliable way of closing the system... and they unclutter the valve cover quite a bit. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainscarlet Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, piotrek said: Just for clarity, none of the tuners require AIS block-off plates. They can all toggle the same bits in the ECU. The plates are just a more reliable way of closing the system... and they unclutter the valve cover quite a bit. 🙂 I left all the AIS gubbins in place and simply placed a rubber bung in the tube coming from the airbox. Job done! A classic trick is to push a marble of the appropriate size into the tube. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted August 17, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, captainscarlet said: I left all the AIS gubbins in place and simply placed a rubber bung in the tube coming from the airbox. Job done! A classic trick is to push a marble of the appropriate size into the tube. That'll suffice. Interesting how this was all supposed to be just plug-and-play... it was that damned red ring that did it. 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainscarlet Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, piotrek said: That'll suffice. Interesting how this was all supposed to be just plug-and-play... it was that damned red ring that did it. 😏 My precious! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, piotrek said: Just for clarity, none of the tuners require AIS block-off plates. They can all toggle the same bits in the ECU. The plates are just a more reliable way of closing the system... and they unclutter the valve cover quite a bit. 🙂 I guess the salient part is "...can all toggle..." but not all do? Curious, why would mechanically blocking off the AIS be more reliable than turning off the function at the ECU? Pretty sure I've read about the plates loosening over time and causing popping in a post by a popular Tuner..... De-cluttering is good. Anyways, all I know about the FJ-09/Tracer ( different ECUs) is what I've read ( a shitload, I spend inordinate amounts of time scouring the intertubes for info of all sorts), and few hundreds of miles on a re-flash compared to 5K on the stock tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted August 17, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Larz said: I guess the salient part is "...can all toggle..." but not all do? Curious, why would mechanically blocking off the AIS be more reliable than turning off the function at the ECU? Tuners disable the AIS (if you want them to) by getting the ECU to force the AIS solenoid valve to remain closed. This is an easy way to close the system, and doesn't require any surgery on the bike. The solenoid valve can still leak or fail... I know, not likely. I simply chose to blank out the ports and remove components that no longer serve any purpose. Just another way of getting there. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 So sexy you want to put her in lingerie and do some Yoga poses for a while first. But no, I'm a man of action, so it's "brace yourself, Nelly" and we're mounting her 😀 @betoneyI'll put up a review when I've got some miles on the pipe. First impressions from a quick ride: Holy Wheelie , Batman. Bike is scary faster; gotta be at least 10 more ponies. Sounds freaking awesome, too. Running really good on Ivan's stock tune; curious to see else what he can do. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted August 21, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted August 21, 2019 @Larz - Looks good! Looking forward to that ride report but "Holy Wheelie" is a good start! 👍 1 ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcal616 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I highly approved of this exhaust choice... Them welds are pornographic tho... Headers/midpipe barely weight more than skimpy lingerie... 2 1 1 2012 wr250f - C-class 30+ age group 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition-80whp 2015 fj-09- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich tune by 2WDW @120whp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 That exhaust looks amazing. Is there any reason to put the O2 sensor back in, or is it just to fill the hole? And what is the other blanked off port for ? Red 2015 Tracer, UK spec (well, it was until I started messing with it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcal616 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, BBB said: That exhaust looks amazing. Is there any reason to put the O2 sensor back in, or is it just to fill the hole? And what is the other blanked off port for ? It's for a wideband o2 sensor for tuning/data logging... I will try to post some pics later today on how it looks(colors) after approx 9k miles... IIRC it took about 2.5k hard miles to really set the color of the pipes... Edited August 21, 2019 by norcal616 2 2012 wr250f - C-class 30+ age group 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition-80whp 2015 fj-09- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich tune by 2WDW @120whp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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