justplainbill Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Sorry to say, but it'll end up being a dud. Pricing will no doubt be the limiting factor for Mama Yama on sales, not a lot of riders out there that are willing to shell out an exorbitant amount of dough for a freakshow concept that has a very love-it-or-hate-it appearance. (Bimota Tesi 3D anyone?) I'd ride the hell out of it... and thrash it for all I'm worth... but ownership? Nah, I'll stick with my FJ-09, thanks. Do you know something nobody else does? Niken price hasn't been announced yet - should be out in a few days (Nov. 6 at EICMA show). Considering Yamaha's pricing of the FZ/MT family so far, I'm expecting the Niken to be something of a bargain in the three wheeler market (where prices start at $17K and go up quickly). From a manufacturing perspective, there's no reason of the price to be exorbitant - an extra set of forks and wheel aren't all that costly. Beefing up the frame head stock isn't a big deal either. Cruise control is included at no extra cost on most cars, so I'm guessing at the manufacturer level it's only a few extra dollars. As for being a sales dud, maybe in the U.S. but probably not in England and Europe. Responses to the (unscientific) MCN on-line poll question: Would you buy one?, 47% of those who responded said yes. These were largely Euro riders, who are a lot less hidebound than Americans). http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2017/october/yamaha-2018-mwt-9-niken-trike-three-wheeler/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Trambo Posted November 4, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'd be very surprised if the pricing was as low as $17k... I'm just guessing here, but would imagine it'll be over $20k, probably closer to $24-25k. Only time will tell. 2015 Stealth Grey FJ-09 Pilot Base of Operations: Chesterfield, VA Farkels? Lots, nothing flashy, but all functional... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adjuster Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 If Yamaha throws that out for less than 12k OTD, and it works as good as the stock FJ09? I'd be really interested in trading my FJ for the Trike with the Tripple. Even better if Yamaha takes the CP3 engine, bores it out, and strokes it for a total of 1100cc's lowers the peak RPM limit to 10k but has a new even better lower/mid range power curve that folks in traffic and 90% of the twisty riding at 8/10's can use every day. Might not be a track burner, but for daily rides to work? Throw factory side bags on there, a taller screen, and dang, that's a nice bike to park in the motorcycle only slots at work. Might even pull a trike wheelie. Please have Cruise Control factory however Yamaha. PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suncoaster Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'd be really interested in trading my FJ for the Trike with the Trippple. FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'd be really interested in trading my FJ for the Trike with the Trippple. FTFY. Que? :-/ Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suncoaster Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 FTFY = "Fixed That For You" and of course triple should be spelled trippple in this case, 3 wheels, 3 cylinders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Yamaha is announcing it's new models at 12 noon PAcific Time. We have a link to the video stream on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/YamahaFJ09Forums/ Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindjoebeck Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'd like Yamaha to stay in business, so if the three-wheeler is important in that regard, I want Yamaha to sell a bunch. On the other hand, I think it's a design exercise, maybe a step along the way toward an autonymous motorcycle. There is no way I'd consider purchasing something like the Niken -- the simplicity of a two-wheeler is what has always spoken to me. Having said that, I wonder what happened to Yamaha's 2-Trac front wheel drive technology. -- Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justplainbill Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Yamaha is announcing it's new models at 12 noon PAcific Time. We have a link to the video stream on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/YamahaFJ09Forums/ I missed the video but found the first definitive information on the Niken; posted by Motorcycle.com here: http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/yamaha/yamaha-niken-leaning-multi-wheeler-coming-to-us-as-2019-model.html No price has been announced but from the features list (electronic cruise control, quick shifter, traction control, fully adjustable front suspension and more) and the many costly and specialized Niken component parts, it wont be cheap. Cruizin, not trying to tell you your business, but I think there's a need now for a Niken forum. Discussions on whether any of us like it, would ride it to a dog fight, consider it fugly, love it/hate it are entertaining, but pointless. The decisions to manufacturer and bring Niken to market just the way it is, have been taken. It's time to move on... Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dndfindley Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'd be very surprised if the pricing was as low as $17k... I'm just guessing here, but would imagine it'll be over $20k, probably closer to $24-25k. Only time will tell.No way - no how. The $24-25k range is low range Spyder territory. Yamaha will keep this in the $14-15k range and it will hit showrooms next summer. I will be in line to trade in my FJ for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dndfindley Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 If Yamaha throws that out for less than 12k OTD, and it works as good as the stock FJ09? I'd be really interested in trading my FJ for the Trike with the Tripple. Even better if Yamaha takes the CP3 engine, bores it out, and strokes it for a total of 1100cc's lowers the peak RPM limit to 10k but has a new even better lower/mid range power curve that folks in traffic and 90% of the twisty riding at 8/10's can use every day. Might not be a track burner, but for daily rides to work? Throw factory side bags on there, a taller screen, and dang, that's a nice bike to park in the motorcycle only slots at work. Might even pull a trike wheelie. Please have Cruise Control factory however Yamaha. PLEASE! You don't read a lot of motorcycles websites do you? Do you ever window shop motorcycle dealerships? Under $12k? What are you smoking? It will be $14-15k imo. It will be worth it and I would pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaFartessa Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The majority of the friends I ride/tour with when visiting Texas are 75 and up. In the past 2 years, 8 of them have traded 2 wheels for Spyders. And most of them admit to missing 'the lean.' One emailed me yesterday to say, pursuant to a test-ride, he'd switch to a Niken in a heartbeat. I'm not there yet, but it makes me happy to see both Yamaha and, reportedly, Honda entering this market. Prior to this, I figured the larger of the Piaggio MP3s would be my choice when I found myself needing to move from 2 wheels. I rode a friend's -the smaller version- and deliberately dove it into gravel in the corners. It had traction to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfjniner Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I want to see lap times on a race track compared to the FJ, done by a variety of riders. Ken, Candy Ass L.D.R. Sleeps 8 hours (2)2005 FJR1300abs: 230,000 m 2015 FJ-09: 114,000 m (Replaced engine at 106K) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepinoutwest Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I can say hands down I like this 3 wheeler better than anything else ever made with three wheels. That said I never needed a third wheel so far, but I almost want to buy one and save it for my golden years. If these things do flop I can see myself buying a new leftover and just holding it for 25-30 years until I need it. I know, something better might come along, but so far in history nothing has. 2001 Honda Saber - sold 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold 2005 Yamaha FZ6 - sold 2007 Yamaha Vstar 1300 - sold 2008 Kawasaki Versys - sold 2009 Yamaha FZ6 - sold 2010 Yamaha Raider - sold 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 - sold 2014 Yamaha FJR - sold 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 - lemon back to dealer 2016 Yamaha FJ -09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advman Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Saw it yesterday in the flesh at Motorcycle Live UK, it's FUGLY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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